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Tas Devil
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Posted - 2006.07.12 12:17:00 -
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Originally by: Benefactor
Originally by: Lifewire
Quote: How about offering some solutions of your own?
Solutions to escort a hauler are well-known in the pvp-corps. How do you think 0.0 corps haul their stuff from and to empire??? Am i your personal trainer or why do you expect me to explain how you succesfully escort a hauler??? Am i known for hauler piloting??? I just can tell you: if you escort it with a Blasterthron, then dont wonder if a sniper destroys your hauler...
Escorting does not mean to warp with the hauler - you have to go ahead, tank the fire and fire back to make the sniper warp away.
The minimum escort is a scout that moves ahead to get recon and evade snipers. If you can, add a sniper-BS to your convoi. It can jump before the hauler does and fire at the pirate sniper to make the pirate warp. Once gate is cleaned, jump the hauler and insta to next gate...an so on.
If a system is camped by 15 pirates you should ask yourself if it should be possible for your hauler to pass this system. The answer is: no! A hauler should not be able to run such a blockade. If a hauler could run through such a blockade then the game would need balancing!
I beg to differ.
When a "tactic" takes nothing more than sitting in one spot and keeping a toggle on, and the "counter" to it involves multiple ships, one equipped with a cloaking device and many more equipped with scramblers, all coordinated to take some asshat who more than likely is loaded with WCSes of his own, OR if the solution is to use some sissy carebear exploit of bookmarks that's been made "legal" because of popularity, then some balancing needs to be done.
I thought "predators" are supposed to chase down their kills, anyway. What's this sitting around crap?
  this benefactor is priceless...
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Tas Devil
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Posted - 2006.07.12 12:29:00 -
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Originally by: Radioactive Babe You make it sound so easy ... 
The problem is that many of the gate campers are 200km from the gate AND have WCS (with the nerf they will only have 3 x heatsinks 2's or gyros etc etc ... plenty of slots for WCS's) ... So your cov ops spends 10 minutes flying to him, if he is on the ball he will be suspicious and warp to SS or camping spot # 2 and 5 minutes later to SS # 3 ...
The really slimy ones work in groups and are at battle speed pointed at a SS ..good luck with them
no offense but what prevents you from observing pirates in the cov ops and rather then wanting instant gratification the first day /.... use the cov ops to BM their own sniper points and label them for easy identification...
then the next day when they pull their show again you don't need to use a cov ops to fly to the sniper... you just need to make sure your attack fleet has the right BMs... the cov ops is just the observer calling in the fleet on the appropriate sniper point...
Some of you people need to be spoon fed everything in this game... if you ain't as smart as the pirates...you deserved to die... 
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Tas Devil
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Posted - 2006.07.12 12:52:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell Edited by: Maya Rkell on 12/07/2006 12:42:58
Originally by: cytomatrix
Originally by: Miss Overlord best thing for anti campers is a large gang next door covert ops as warp in point plenty of ECM then the solo campers become tonights dinner (this will force them into larger gangs if they are smart)
You dont need a big fleet to kill a sniper. Just a covertops and a close range ship. And nerfing sensor boosters is not gonna change anything. They will bring alts to boost them.
Point, that'd need slashing by the same percentage.
And Tas, as soon as any number of deacent PvPers enter system they deep safe and log. Ask Ginger about it.
Totally agree maya... that's why I sometimes visit aunenen ... just showing up and the snipers there ss... but doesn't that simply achieve the objective ? ie making the gate safe for your indy to travel ?

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Tas Devil
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Posted - 2006.07.12 13:17:00 -
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Originally by: Bhaal
Originally by: Deja Thoris
Originally by: Lifewire
Quote: How about offering some solutions of your own?
Solutions to escort a hauler are well-known in the pvp-corps. How do you think 0.0 corps haul their stuff from and to empire???
Carriers or dreads.
Which you can't use where the pirate infestation is...
I'm all for the rabbit wolf thing, but the wolf has ALWAYS had it easy, because the DEV's must have all been wolves in UO, as they seem to like it this way.
The whole gate/chockepoint was designed for pirating, not for traveling...
/me pats Bhall on the head... I'm assuming you didn't understand the reply of carrier + dreads... they use them to jump supplies to 0.0 from empire not escort their indies...
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Tas Devil
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Posted - 2006.07.12 13:21:00 -
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Edited by: Tas Devil on 12/07/2006 13:22:26
Originally by: Bhaal
Quote: /me pats Bhall on the head... I'm assuming you didn't understand the reply of carrier + dreads... they use them to jump supplies to 0.0 from empire not escort their indies...
And I'm saying, you can't use them in low sec for that purpose.
Also, who can afford to do that anyways, pretty much only alliances...
Certainly not someone in empire trying to avoid snipers...
You can't use carriers and dreads in low sec ? you're cute... I wasn't going to insult you before as you were already down ... but now you're just making a fool of yourself...
and before you carry on ... the reply of carrier + dreads was specifically to a question about how 0.0 corps or alliances move stuff from and into 0.0 from empire... it wasn't a suggestion for Mr 2 month old wanting to avoid snipers in low sec...
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Tas Devil
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Posted - 2006.07.17 12:14:00 -
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You're still here !?!?!?   
Go Home ! It's over ! 
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